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00:00:00 - Start of Interview/Introductions 00:00:32 - Early life

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Segment Synopsis: Grew up in Mauston, WI. John McCormick (JM) was born with a cleft lip and significant speech impediment which needed medical attention. JM had speech therapy and surgery at University of Wisconsin – Madison. He started pre-pharmacy at UW-Eau Claire, was more interested in direct patient care and became interested in Nursing. JM ended up switching to UW-Milwaukee to finish school. He had to take a leave of absence from his first year at nursing school because his mother passed away. He was at Madison General from 1977-1979 and then got a job at Colombia Hospital. He was very hands on, wanted to help out with family. He explains that for men, nursing was not super common in his community. He recalls a few people from his high school who became nurses.

Keywords: Columbia Hospital; Mauston, WI; cleft lip; speech therapy

00:14:32 - Preconceptions/First impressions

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Segment Synopsis: He knew there was an emphasis on applied and social sciences. He knew clinicals were a large part of school. Other schools had less emphasis on clinicals. JK responds that he assumed that medicine was almost entirely science but learned that there is an art as well as a science to medicine.

Keywords: art; clinical experience; social sciences

00:18:56 - Life in nursing school

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Segment Synopsis: He thinks there were between 85-100 students in his class. He lived in the dorms. It was very easy to talk to other students and ask questions or have a discussion. He explains that the dorms helped bond the class. He recalls they went to dances or concerts and movies. He recalls there were not as many vegetable options. There was also not a lot of deep frying.

Keywords: bonding; dormitory; dorms; friendships

00:23:56 - Classes

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Segment Synopsis: One of the biggest was in the ER rotation, certified CPR. He remembers practicing this a lot. Also remembers his pharmacology course. Once they broke into the clinical rotations, usually 20 in the rotation but 10 at each site, whom you become very close to. He remembers have a larger lecture with more people for maybe 1 class.

Keywords: CPR; Clinical rotations; Emergency nursing; pharmacology

00:29:51 - Faculty

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Segment Synopsis: He remembers Mary Heckler, she taught one of the first clinical rotations. He also remembers some other people who were particularly helpful as he was dealing with his mother’s death, and someone who helped him understand how the art and the science of nursing come together. He explains how you can help show your knowledge to patients as well as helping them understand what you are saying or doing.

Keywords: grief; kindess; teaching

00:36:25 - Challenges/Study skills

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Segment Synopsis: [He first adds another faculty member: Jean, an OR nurse who had been around and respected her for a while, she was easy to understand.] The post clinical could be very challenging for memory reasons, need to remember specific reasoning for treatment. The medical library was a good resource. Medical journals were there to read.

Keywords: challenges; memory; post clinical

00:42:26 - Unusual practices

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Segment Synopsis: He remembers that to avoid accidental finger sticks, the recapping practices that are since phased out, now needles recap themselves basically. Another thing is giving injections for controlling pain, and now the patient controls it with a button, like through an IV.

Keywords: IVs; pain management; recapping

00:46:53 - Post graduation/Challenges in nursing career

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Segment Synopsis: He worked at Colombia Hospital in Milwaukee starting in 1979 in Orthopedics. He worked there for forty years, it merged and changed names a couple times. He retired in 2018. He found it challenging working in the Orthopedic unit, dealing with immobile patients and complications after surgery.

Keywords: Milwaukee; Orthopedics; challenges; complications; immobile

00:52:13 - Memories from nursing career

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Segment Synopsis: The first recertification of CPR and repeated it a couple times. He ended up teaching CPR. And in the 1990’s, he had switched to geriatric psychiatry, and was made co-chair quickly. He also remembers being honored after 30 years working at the hospital, noting he was a great listener and made lasting change.

Keywords: CPR; geriatric psychiatry; recertification

01:02:25 - Returning to Madison

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Segment Synopsis: He went to an alumni event last May. He was usually working so he couldn’t go to ones prior. He went on a walk through. Took up dance, became a Scottish country dance teacher since 2001. Would go to Madison for this. He also has other friends who live in the Madison area. He also talks about UW-Milwaukee Nursing students and how in the early years, they were students from UW-Madison.

Keywords: Scottish Country Dance; UW-Milwaukee Nursing School; alumni

01:09:42 - Advice for future nursing students

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Segment Synopsis: He talks about technology and electronic literature and urges nursing students to use their knowledge of technology to communicate and care better with patients. He explains they should make use of the information ready at your fingertips.

Keywords: communication; electronic literature; technology

01:15:27 - End of Interview